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My wife and I laugh at the curious teenagers. We also figure if someone wants our picture, they must be desperate.
We hope to take our future children. Good topic! Public sex, The exhibitionist, The voyeur, The masturbator - thik about them, why they do what they do? Mainly because they get pleasure from what they do! Nobody gets harmed in the process.
One does not have to go to nudist beach to find weird people. I lived for a few years in Vancouver BC and joined a club called Meadowbrook. The sauna was the centre of frivolity with couples and as a single male that put me off.
Several years later I had returned to Australia and attended a weekly swim night only to be turned off by an older man touching me. I think any behaviour is out of order and as a happily married man I decided to drop out of that venue. Nobody can stand that for more then a second and will get the message. It also works for the few people who spend long periods at any window overlooking my garden.
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Thank you. Could not agree more that the fear is something to be overcome. It makes me think of the same step everyone must push through when first trying nudism. Well So what? Is that really so bad? I know you are a team but this seems very much written to the male perspective.
We look out for each other, right? Because women have to think this way all the time. So what if she found someone waiting for her at her car who had flagged her on the beach?
Jumped at the restroom or somewhere she accidentally found herself to be alone for the moment? It is terrible but we live in a world where there are case loads of legal president to excuse rape because there victim was dressed provicatively. Not being dressed AT ALL? Thats insane, right? In the mind of an assailant that is like an unrevokable open permission for anyone to have their way with her!
Yes that man is a monster to think so, but remember that there is a LOT of rape culture out there to help him justify that view. Certainly, being raped is one of the worst things that could happen. But we do believe that chances are higher to be raped at a textile place than at a nudist place. Some people could misunderstand the nudity as an invitation to sex.
But the fact that a woman is comfortable enough to be naked among others makes her a strong personality, something that will make her less of a prey.
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Also, a man who has the intention of raping a woman at a nudist place will often have to be naked as well, which will put him in a more vulnerable position. I do wonder if it is not a big fear for some, just the same. Sadly, women are raped in all sorts of situations. So your point could only be that it is more likely at a nude beach where perverts are openly around.
And is there any actual evidence that voyeurs, exhibitionists etc are more likely to be rapists than less?
These things are often counter-intuitive. You might be familiar with the idea that porn promotes, and users of porn have, poor attitudes to women. Yet it is little talked about that a relatively recent major study found exactly the opposite. Nudists beas were very popular back then, but over the years have seem to fallen out of favour since then here in Australia. We used to go to Lady Jane Beach in Sydney harbour Just to perv on the women. On one particular weekend we were there, one woman severely scolded me, when she caught me laying near her just to get a good look.
She did not hold back. She ripped into me, as she had every right to. No doubt we quickly left the beach after that. That night, I thought to myself, she was absolutely right to do what she did, and I felt very ashamed and embarrassed.
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The following weekend, I went back to the beach by myself, without my 2 mates, Promptly dropped my swimmers, and laid there naked with all the other nudists. It was my first time ever nude on a public beach, and it just felt so natural and so right.
Male and female perverts When we hear about incidents in nudist places, the offender is always either 16 or 61 and male. Whenever we ask someone about their negative encounters on a nude beach, it always had to do something with a man. A man who was staring too much, a man who got too close, a man who got an erection at the wrong moment,
I have been a life long nudist ever since and I have never looked back. My only problem now is, trying to convince my current girlfriend to join the nudists lifestyle.
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Funny that you should mention the men vs women thing. Men get the negative attention, but. I was at Tyagarah a few years back and a woman, somewhat on the larger size, turned up. She lay down and a couple of guys positioned themselves towards her feet and she proceeded to spread wide and give them a show. I can only assume - from the knowing way the men positioned themselves - that she was well-known for it.
Then on my next time there I glanced over at a couple and noticed that the woman had one busy hand between her legs; and her efforts became increasingly ostentatious over time.
I must have seemed like the weird man at the beach for a while. Sitting fully clothed and awkward. After being on the periphery for a long time and being stared at for being odd, I finally took the plunge.
It still feels strange but I have revisited a few times. I will keep you posted on my adventures in naturism. Strange days indeed for me. I have been on the nudist beach several times now and mostly, without incident. There have been some unpleasant things. A man wearing a jock strap wandering around asking for people to rub oil into his skin.
He asked me but I refused. He sat very close to me for a long time afterwards. A man with a semi erection walking up and down making sure that everyone saw him. I was videoed by someone as I was taking my clothes off.
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It has been a real learning experience. I am slightly less confident about taking my clothes off now but I will find the nerve to do it again soon. The good outweighs the bad. It really depends from place to place. Some nude beas are very comfortable and others tend to attract all the creeps.
Sad but true. I have a bit of a problem with this.
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The simple fact that these behaviours occur so often at nude beas is a sign that the behaviour is in fact normal. Humans are genetically programmed to be hyper aware of unusual occurrences as they may present a threat or an opportunity - casual nudity is still - unfortunately - enough of a rarity that it counts as an unusual occurrence. Humans are visual creatures. People naturally like to look at the things that catch their interest or that they perceive as beautiful.
The reality is men will look - regardless of whether the subject of their gaze is clothed or unclothed. No doubt it can potentially be distressing for the recipient of these gazes, particularly for women.
I suggest that widespread social acceptance of nudism as a natural, everyday occurrence is less likely to occur all the while that nudists are crying out about being surrounded by perverts in the bushes. Not only does this practice deter people from trying nudity it also portrays the nudist movement as bigoted and judgemental.
What I do care about is being labelled as a critical and judgemental person who seeks to control others for my own comfort - which is what a lot of nudists seem to do.
Well, it depends on how you look at it. As you mention, enjoying to look at naked people or being looked at is not unnatural.
But making people feel uncomfortable doing so, is definitely morally wrong. But we absolutely agree that blog posts like this one are definitely not productive for the widespread social acceptance of nudism.
On Naked Wanderings, we like to call the things what they are, but not more than that. We prefer to talk about more positive things. I agree with all the types you describe in the article, but you forget the pedophiles.
Yes, they are there as well, unfortunately. Still a naturist family place at that time but without the controll and used by predators. I am still a naturist in heart but damaged from when I was a child. I can never totally relax and I am allways observing, never trusting unfortunately. On Naked Wanderings, we always try to write about the things that we know.
I have been a nudist for over a decade now and introduced my new partner to it a few years back. I also practiced nudism wife my ex wife prior to that. We have encountered just about all these scenarios. For the most part no harm tends to come from anything. If we feel uncomfortable we leave the area. That may not sound fair to us, but it is the easiest thing to do. Only once did we find someone rather pushy and pushing the sexual envelope.
At that point we had to make our intentions clear. After we told him our boundaries he was respectful and left us be. Who was told to put it a way, as he was in a area families frequently visited. With the technology out there it is so easy now. That always feels like a complete invasion of rights. Now we have also been the exhibitionists out there, but in those situations we had an idea of what was acceptable with the adults around.
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We knew our audience so to speak. We recognize the difference between naturism and other lifestyles and are careful not to offend or make anyone uncomfortable. Nor do we consider exhibitions a representation of naturists, it is just something we enjoy. I am glad that we found this site, it is nice to chat to fellow naturists and to be able to discuss naturist topics, however the pervert element drags this site down especially in the chat room.
I always look at the profile of the people I am chatting too. It amazes me how many pretty single females there are in the chat room. A few private message us, and the conversation normally goes hi how are you, followed by how big is your cock, or is your wife shaved.
Obviously men hiding behinf a female profile getting there kicks. The final straw was the other night somebody posing as a young couple, problem was the photo's were of children who I guess were no older than seven, I created a scene in chat and pointed it out to a moderator, I was amazed whilst people did back me up other people were out to defend this pervert.
Please please please lets keep this a naturist site for naturist issues and for the perverts there are other sites you can go to to share your sick fantasies with other sick minded people. That's what the moderators are there for in chat, and the flagging system for profiles. Yes, flagging sometimes takes a few days to work, and occasionally there's no moderator in chat, but the tools work if people use them. It's a constant fight for the mods.
Too many pervs on any given day. But the core group of members is very good and in line with your thoughts. Don't be discouraged. I couldn't agree more!
I agree with your comments re the sleasebags on here too. Since I rarely visit the chat room these days I am rarely engaged by them which is good, however I still get the odd friends request from people who do not read the part on my profile that basicly says no prior contact will have a friends request denied.
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I agree with the others, don't be discouraged. The pervs don't represent TN; they are a byproduct of the well-considered and SEO friendly name of the site.
The OP did the right thing by notifying the mods; who do a great job.
The forums here are littered with the pervs complaining about being booted from chat. No matter where you go, you will have trolls on the net. But there's plenty of good people here on TN. This is what happens when u let anyone make an accountdo u know any of these people u talk to? I always say hi I like video games and vaping and naked.